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Nate926
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Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:09 pm Posts: 45
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 THIS DOESN"T MAKE SINCE TO ME!
Ok I had a tracker 1448 with pods that had a Yamaha 60/40 2 stroke tiller jet that weight 225lbs. The boat ran 31-32 by myself and 27 with me and a friend. In shallow water it was about a mile faster than deep water.
It seems everywhere I read people are always saying a 1448 is to small for a gtr 35. The GTR 35 only weighs 35 more lbs than my jet and it handled it just fine!
I now have a 1656 g3 jet with a 60/40 center console it's a tank, not a day goes by that I don't miss my little 1448. My 1448 was stable handled like a sports car, could haul the mail, was so light if you hit a rock it just bounced off it.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 260lb mm and a 225lb jet? COULD I NOT EXPECT THE SAME KIND OF PERFORMANCE???
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:36 pm |
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BlueShamu
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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What's a 60/40?
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:47 pm |
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cr244
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:43 am Posts: 1504 Location: Watoola, Alabama
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:54 pm |
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cr244
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:43 am Posts: 1504 Location: Watoola, Alabama
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 Re: THIS DOESN"T MAKE SINCE TO ME!
blue, my bad just read the full post. now i got the same question LOL. whats a 60/40??
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:57 pm |
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Nate926
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Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:09 pm Posts: 45
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Sorry guys a 60/40 Is a 60 hp out board motor with a jet foot instead of a regular lower unit. Jets aren't as efficient as regular outboard cutting it down to a 40 horse power jet. I would love to have that same setup again except with a mm so I could go in the vegetation and mud, where I couldn't with a jet because it would clog.
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:06 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:10 pm |
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Nate926
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Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:09 pm Posts: 45
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That's what confuses me why would it not work on a 1448,but it would work on say a 1748? I mean if you put a 60/40 jet on a 1448 boat it is going to go faster than a 1748 for the pure fact that it's lighter. What make a mudd motor different than a jet that weighs within 35lbs of each other? I'm not saying your wrong I think I am just missing something here.
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:17 pm |
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pearl river outlaw
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Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:12 am Posts: 1407 Location: Louisville Ms
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Before I just make afool out of myself here you asking why ppl recomend you running a 1748 over a 1448 with a mm right?
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:32 pm |
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txmudcutter
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Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 2307 Location: Nederland, TX (SETX)
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Trying to compare a mm to a jet just isnt apples to apples. These motors need to be setup different from outboards to perform at there best.
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:38 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:58 pm |
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Gameover
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Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:06 am Posts: 3673 Location: Prarieville,LA
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mudmotors run like crap on a short boat. all the weight in the back doesnt really allow it to plane well and get the surface pierceing prop up like it is suppose to. an outboard doesnt care
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:02 pm |
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Frog
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Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:49 am Posts: 3260
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 Re: THIS DOESN"T MAKE SINCE TO ME!
I'm no expert but I think its because the 1748 has more boat in front of the motor which will help it plane off better, especially carrying a load.
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:10 pm |
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Frog
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:11 pm |
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CootSlayerRMFT
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Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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It's in the mudmotor's union contract that you must put at least 16 feet of boat in front of them to help them plane. God damn unions are destroying this country!  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:01 pm |
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eljefe
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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a longer boat will run "flatter" than a shorter boat which will want to squat and ride nose up.....depending on the layout and weight distribution....i guess......
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:24 pm |
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BERNIE255
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Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:43 pm Posts: 1381 Location: Avoyelles Parish/ Marksville LA
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 Re: THIS DOESN"T MAKE SINCE TO ME!
A mud motor needs more surface area to run rite, and a mm pushes the boat differently then an outboard. Bigger boat=more surface area. but it doesent mean that it will run better on a huge ass boat
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:46 pm |
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Nate926
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Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:09 pm Posts: 45
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 Re: THIS DOESN"T MAKE SINCE TO ME!
Pearl river outlaw that is exactly what I am asking, but others have already stated why. With my 1448 it did want to make the front in stand up when I was running by myself so I put a 100lb tractor weight on the front deck. Rode like a dream after that. But now I see what I am missing!! "to get the surface pierceing prop up like it is suppose to". That makes since to me vs a jet doesn't need this thanks for helping me get that through my thick head lol!!
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:24 pm |
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Nate926
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Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:09 pm Posts: 45
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 Re: THIS DOESN"T MAKE SINCE TO ME!
Wonder what kind of speed I could get out of a 16'x54" with a gtr 35?
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:30 pm |
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calphil
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Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:49 pm Posts: 1715 Location: Kingwood,TX
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27-28 range stock
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Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:39 pm |
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