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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 26.4
Took my boat out today for the second time today since having my buddy fix my rich running condition and I turned my RPMs up so I run 4,100 in the water at WOT. The result? 26.4 mph. You simply cannot beat these motors. If you're looking into buying a new long tail, you're settling for second best if you go with anyone besides Backwater Inc.
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: 26.4
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: 26.4
Is that fast?
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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 Re: 26.4
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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whitelightning
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:53 pm Posts: 77 Location: DE, MD, NJ
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 Re: 26.4
Those are some great numbers Frank. Have you modified the motor an or is that the stock 35?
Also do you (or H finn) know if Back has any plans on putting other motors on their frames, like the subaru engine or one from kawi?
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: 26.4
Motor is stock. If you're interested in a different motor than what they offer, you can always buy the frame from them and then bolt on whatever motor you'd like.
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btmannin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:25 pm Posts: 1723 Location: Oxford/Jackson ms
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 Re: 26.4
_________________ 1436 tin can shoved by a 16 GDLT 16.5x48 running like hell from a built 40 merc
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: 26.4
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
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baron von
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: 26.4
did I miss a thread? what did you do to fix the engine Frank?
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: 26.4
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Glades Ranger
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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 Re: 26.4
Frank, that is damn fast for an LT. This is music to my ears....I took my nephew hunting yesterday, I am very happy because I put him on birds and he dropped four ringers with four shots- and he had not used the Browning O/U for over a year- and we were running c. 17 mph with all the gear...I was just telling him about my planned upgrade to the 35 SS, to run in the low 20's would be heaven.  Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!
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stu
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:35 pm Posts: 608 Location: Deerfield Beach FL,
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 Re: 26.4
Frank, great speeds. Guess I'm gonna have to tweak mine too. Glad your nephew had a good hunt Glades.
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: 26.4
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
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riverratdm84
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Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:15 pm Posts: 701 Location: pella, ia
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baron von
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: 26.4
good deal Frank - nice to have your rig back and kicking ass again 
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huck Finn
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:42 pm Posts: 1913 Location: Conroe tx
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 Re: 26.4
_________________ Ole black water keep on rolling
18x54 Uncle J -GTR - with the koolaid Back H2o SWOMP 23 SS stage 2 15x36 GD Duck Skiff GATOR GATOR GLIDE PROSTAFF BACKWATER PROSTAFF http://www.gatorglide.com
Coupe rest in peace brother
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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 26.4
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Smoke
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:27 pm Posts: 1095 Location: SW Michigan
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 Re: 26.4
Those speeds are flat flying for a lt! Congrats Frank you've got yourself a bad ass long tail. I loved my gd but it was only a 25hp.
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Delta1389
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:24 pm Posts: 310 Location: Morgan City, LA
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 Re: 26.4
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: 26.4
B coonass ran 30 ish on a 1744 with a 31 gdlt.
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brasso
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
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 Re: 26.4
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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 Re: 26.4
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brasso
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Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
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 Re: 26.4
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Hell yeah it's fast.
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Is there a thread on this thing?
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JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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 Re: 26.4
Someone tried to get a pic of it running, but it was just a blurrrr!
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: 26.4
Heard he was trying to keep it on the down low to keep the motor manufacturers off his ideas and mods.
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Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:31 am |
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brasso
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 am Posts: 5557
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 Re: 26.4
The "big country" I met at Caddo sure didint seem like he was capable of attaining the knowledge it would take to produce something like that...
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drpwells
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:04 am Posts: 101
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 Re: 26.4
How did you turn your RPM's up? I have a new Backwater 35 LS on a much heavier boat than yours but my empty rpms are 3700-3800. I wish I could get 4000 without doing mods.
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baron von
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:52 pm Posts: 2806 Location: Minnesota
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 Re: 26.4
make sure your throttle linkage/cable opens the throttle all the way when at WOT.
what are your out of the water RPMs WOT (wide open throttle) @drpwells?
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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stu
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:35 pm Posts: 608 Location: Deerfield Beach FL,
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 Re: 26.4
Because of this thread I turned my OOW RPMs up to 4100. From what I've read 4300 is as far as it'll go. Is this true and should I turn it up that high?
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: 26.4
Your motor should cut out around 4300 if it's a COD motor. Mine hits the limiter out of water and runs 4100 in water.
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stu
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Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:35 pm Posts: 608 Location: Deerfield Beach FL,
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 Re: 26.4
Thanks for the info on the adjustment screw. Found it no problem. It runs 3800 WOT in the water. I'm gonna turn it up next time it's in the water.
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drpwells
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Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:04 am Posts: 101
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 Re: 26.4
I'm currently running just the stock prop! Motor has only 7 hrs on it so far. I will have to recheck my out of water rpms but I remember it started bouncing near 4100 or so!
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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 Re: 26.4
I have a 2005 29hp van, bangs rev limiter/gov at 4200. In water, max I saw was a solid 3460..... Ditched the 9x7 and going with a 9x6 so I can get more rpms and run in sweet spot (3900-4000).... I run BPS Tiger props
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Kcpanages
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drpwells
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Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:04 am Posts: 101
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Kcpanages
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Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:41 am Posts: 532
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 26.4
Set idle on carb (IMO) to idle about 1400 out of water, (I adjusted my throttle cable on back of engine, I loosened the cable clamp and pulled the cable housing to me till the slider pulled on spring). Then for WOT, I moved my throttle lever to were it was in line with handle bar and adjusted cable to where it's bouncing off rev limiter...... In water I idle 1200-1300, in water WOT I see 3640 steady. But I'm going from a 9x7 prop to 9x6........
Maybe DELTA1389 WILL CHIME IN. He is better at it
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drpwells
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Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:04 am Posts: 101
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 Re: 26.4
Just checked my oow rpms. Idle 1400 and wot 4050. I assume that's why I can only get 3700 in a loaded boat. I'd love to get to 4000+ in the water.
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Kcpanages
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