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BerettA400
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Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:50 pm Posts: 13
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 Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Hey guys I've been doing some research on a new hull to hang the 36 Prodrive on. My current rig is a 1748 and it runs great until you pile 4 fat guys, every decoy that's been produced since the Gulf War, guns, and other miscellaneous gear that no human could possibly need on a half day hunt into it. At that point it will inevitably almost get on plane but will not quite break over and do it. Now before you gentleman begin pencil whipping me with tales of hydro physics just save it. I don't care about breaking any speed records. I'm only interested in finding the best rig to carry a load and step up on plane every time and run steadily. I've been looking into something 17' or 18' between 54" and 60" wide. Any wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks
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msm8281
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
18x54 or 18x60
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:07 pm |
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Got Dux
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:12 pm Posts: 103
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:29 pm |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
The more surface area you've got on the water, the better you'll displace weight. That being said, if those are your choices, go with the 1860. 2054 would be a load hauling SOB too but it won't be passing much. I've hauled my 4 wheeler in my 1860 and with that and camping gear it stepped it and ran fine with the 37. It was slow but it had the bitch loaded DOWN.
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:04 pm |
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Hernaja1
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Get a 20' 72" lol jk . I'd go with the 18' 60" should do more then ok.
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:34 pm |
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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Hernaja1
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Fixed it lol. Don't give me ideas lol jk no way
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:08 am |
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LB200
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:43 pm Posts: 656
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Minimum 1854 with a modded motor if you are carrying that much stuff. Possibly invest in finding some smaller friends that are not hoarders!
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:24 am |
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dguidry
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Usually people complaining about speed and load carrying are fat asses like me...the 250 and above club,
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:54 am |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
I vote 20'. You would be surprised at what my old boat would step with a stock GTR. It would step 4 man hunting load. Might run 22 or so.
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:05 am |
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BayouStateHunter
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 1:04 pm Posts: 2037 Location: On da Northshore -- Louisiana
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2009 1860 CC with a GTR cam and decked heads and I do well with a hunting or bowfishing load. 4 guys, generator and ice chest. Low 20's but no problem getting on step.
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:59 am |
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jakehawk9
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm Posts: 1447 Location: South central, ks
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
My friend have I found the rig for you That's over 1500hp of pure load carrying ass hauling power
It's simple. get a mud motor. shoot ducks in the face.
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:01 am |
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BerettA400
MMT Member
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:50 pm Posts: 13
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Jake you need to get with the times. 7 marine is making a 627 now. Those 557's are old news. Time to upgrade. Haha. Saltwater fishing is my other hobby. Thanks for the input guys. Definitely leaning toward the 1860. Would going to 20 feet not offset the expanded surface area with weight or is it still enough to make a difference?
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:06 am |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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The benefit of going to 20' far outweighs the added hull weight of 2' more boat. I've said it before. If I could change one thing about my boat, it would be to make it 20' long.
There's actually a video on the 'tube of a 37 GDSD on a 2048 GD hull. Looks like it does just fine to me.
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:14 am |
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North LA Hunter
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
I started out with a 1442 then built a 1748 then and 1848 then a 2048 and now I'm building a 2054. And I run tight bayous and timber and love it. Going to try a little wider hull this time just to see how it's going to do. But unless I get a small block I'm going to have 20' hulls.
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:13 am |
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Someone figure out how to get one of those 7s to bolt to my GT that will fix my speed issue
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:24 pm |
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North LA Hunter
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Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm Posts: 6976 Location: West Monroe, LA
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kirk
MMT F.E.
Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:52 pm Posts: 870 Location: SW LA
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:33 pm |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
I'm pretty sure the search feature on YouTube works the same for everyone but hey... I'll assume yours is broken. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JgXn9hAN49o
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:19 pm |
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duckduckboom
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
What Gen is your prodrive?
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:57 am |
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Will
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Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:26 am |
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BerettA400
MMT Member
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:50 pm Posts: 13
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
It's an '08 completely stock. Is that gen 2?
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:14 pm |
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:18 pm |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Deck, port, polish, your heads, get a 308 + 6 cam and gut your exhaust.
Its cheaper than changing your boat
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:41 pm |
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BerettA400
MMT Member
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:50 pm Posts: 13
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
What type of a power increase do you typically see on a job like that?
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:56 pm |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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you will step four fat guys and a bunch of useless gear at 24 mph
have you ever measured your prop?
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:01 pm |
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BerettA400
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Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:50 pm Posts: 13
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
Yea it's a brand new Hopkins. Tried that already haha.
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:00 am |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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I'd try modding your motor first. You can probably do it for $700-1000 depending on who does the work.
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Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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If you like your motor being stock like I do, get a 20' boat and don't look back.
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Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:32 pm |
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westwind
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:22 am Posts: 114
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
What about a 2060?
Helluvalotta boat but is it doable with a 37 efi?
Any of you guys running 1860's running tall sides?
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Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:08 am |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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My 1860 is short sided but I wouldn't be scared of my motor on an identical hull only 2' longer. I think it would be just fine. I can't comment on a high sided boat but I don't see there being a whole lot of difference other than whatever additional weight from the material and the fact that you'll be higher profile for the wind to blow you around a little more.
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Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:57 am |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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This 1848 did an awesome job hauling a very heavy load. image.jpg
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Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:26 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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This 1854 needed a lot of help getting on a step...
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Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:28 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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And one on the trailer before it hit the water. image.jpg
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Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:24 pm |
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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: Ultimate Load Carrying Rig
You forgot the kitchen sink.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:51 pm |
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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lsufan86
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Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:08 pm Posts: 34
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Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:28 am |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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I think people often overlook the luxury of driving a vehicle to the camp. We generally try to run bay boats to the camp for that reason.
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Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:44 am |
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westwind
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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How fast do you have to go and how much power can you afford. The first picture is a 24 X 48 Alweld with a cabin. It carries gear for a week for two guys plus 50 gallons of gas at 20 to 23 mph. The cabin can be a problem in strong crosswinds. The power is a single 35 SD. With the cabin off I have hauled two 600 lb snowmachines down a narrow, winding, shallow, rocky river with no problems. It was a short run though...only 45 miles. The second picture is a 24 X 72 with twin 35 SD's. It will haul a pallet of plywood and 10 bags of readymix at 30 mph. I favor big boats because I don't run stumps or trees and carry large loads. I now have a 24 X 60 Monark that is about 30 years old. It is wonderful on Yukon river fishing trips of a week or 10 days. My neighbor and I have built several 20 X 56 boats that seem to be a good compromise for our conditions.
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