It is currently Sun Sep 21, 2025 12:29 pm




Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues 
Author Message
MMT Member

Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:03 pm
Posts: 49
Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin
Post 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
I have a stage 2 23hp Gator Tail that started acting up this weekend. When I start it and it is in neutral, it will immediately rev to over 4000 rpm. It also revs very high when I activate reverse, without using any throttle. When I have it in forward, it runs completely normal, but I did notice that it did rev to over 5000 rpm when I was a little stuck and trying to get out, which I don’t think I’ve ever seen it rev that high before. Any idea what would cause this? I will add that when removing the blind from my motor, it ripped out my oil dip stick but luckily I found that, and I feel like it’s missing a spring or something in the back, that may have been ripped out, would something like that possibly cause this? I’d post a picture but I cannot figure out how to. Thanks in advance!

_________________
1748 Mike Kliebert with a 37 Prodrive


Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:21 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm
Posts: 4820
Location: West Monroe, LA
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Sounds like the whole throttle to governor linkage is jacked. Maybe something bent wrong, etc.

#CFFITR
#GhostBoat
#Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor


Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:22 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm
Posts: 4820
Location: West Monroe, LA
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Take a couple pics and post them here and someone will be along to help.

#CFFITR
#GhostBoat
#Whoneedsphysicsihaveamudmotor


Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:23 am
Profile
MMT Member

Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:03 pm
Posts: 49
Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Thanks for the reply. We, or should I say my cousin, found that what is causing the issues is the governor weight assembly(?) broke inside the engine. So now I have a list of parts to hopefully get and put it back together for my next trip, in two weeks.

_________________
1748 Mike Kliebert with a 37 Prodrive


Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:45 pm
Profile
MMT Sponsor

Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm
Posts: 2107
Location: Gladewater TX
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Yep, that’s common on factory 23 cams


Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:51 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:25 pm
Posts: 69
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Get a performance cam to throw in there while it’s all apart.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:58 am
Profile
MMT Member

Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:03 pm
Posts: 49
Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
It was a performance cam from what I was told. Anyone know where or if I can just get the weight assembly, or do I need to order a whole new cam?

_________________
1748 Mike Kliebert with a 37 Prodrive


Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:52 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:25 pm
Posts: 69
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
I took the whole governor assembly out of mine when I put my cam in. That included removing the weights, spool and the arm. I would think you should be able to remove as well. I’ve read that pvt sold some cams with the stock governor. If you have one of those then not sure if you can just remove spool and weights or not. Need an expert to chime in..


Jacks small engines.com has all those pieces if you want to go back with them. Just search by your engines model number.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:30 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:25 pm
Posts: 69
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Actually just looked back at it, I do think you need a new cam if you slung a weight..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:34 pm
Profile
MMT Member

Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:03 pm
Posts: 49
Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
That’s what I was hoping wouldn’t be what I had to do, but it’s looking like I will have to buy a new cam. if I put in a stock cam with performance heads, would I just not have the performance I had before, or is there anything else that could go wrong? I just need to get something quick for a trip I’m going on next weekend.

_________________
1748 Mike Kliebert with a 37 Prodrive


Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:25 pm
Posts: 69
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Yeah that’s correct, just wouldn’t have as much performance through the whole power band and you would also have the stock governer assembly that you would have to put back together and that has the potential to fail again.

I ran performance heads with a stock cam for a while but I wouldn’t go back. If you wanted a performance cam, Al at PVT or BPS probably both have one on the shelf you could get shipped overnight.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:43 am
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Posts: 16915
Location: Rowlett, TX
Post Re: 23hp Gator Tail idiling issues
Take the governor crap out and put a mikuni on it.


Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:56 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 12 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron