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JIMMY W
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 4534 Location: South Louisiana
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ 17/54 GT EXTREME Center Console, Huntdeck w/ GTR 35
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EasTexDux88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ ETD88 09/28/09-05/14/2010...
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
I do believe that sarcasm is a lost cause on this site 
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EasTexDux88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
i knew what you meant DW.. i wasnt really sure bout JW 
_________________ ETD88 09/28/09-05/14/2010...
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
Street cred ha! There aint no streets in Venice, just one highway and a couple of roads that all end at water 
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
left myself wide open for that one.
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
How da phuck did I miss dis gem?
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POKER1
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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_________________ 18x48 Charles Leonard / 36PD
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bundy
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:35 pm Posts: 1232 Location: souf louisiana
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_________________ BUNDY BUILT SKIFFLESS cuz der bad ass like dat....
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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Wed May 05, 2010 8:03 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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Wed May 05, 2010 8:05 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
LOL 
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Wed May 05, 2010 8:14 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
Nah, I saw the vid myboy, and it speaks for itself. I seen Big Sexy do some shit with his rig that I had a hard time following and vice versa. And you know what it doen't bother me one bit. I like my rig, it might not be the fastest, it might not be the bestest in the mud, or even the prettiest well it might be the prettiest! Cause My Shit Be PIMPIN! 
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deltaduckmaster
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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Wed May 05, 2010 8:18 pm |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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DeathMetalDukk
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:50 pm Posts: 3777 Location: Knotts Island, North Carolina.
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
The pic of that boat slingin' the corkscrew of mud is fukkn beast. That looks like a better push than a spray.
_________________ Put yer face in the myrtles.
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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cmelvin
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:47 pm Posts: 1039 Location: Texas
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_________________ To be successful, you must decide exactly what you want to accomplish, then resolve to pay the price to get it.
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JBREAUX
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:12 pm Posts: 412 Location: soufff la
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
So pd people say pds can go way more places until they get called out, then they say "its not a pissing match" or "it suits my needs"?? Sounds like a lot of people are just trying to justify buying the wrong motor! 
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Thu May 06, 2010 6:37 am |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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mcnemar1982
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:03 pm Posts: 2216 Location: Walker, Louisiana
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ Ideas not coupled with action never become bigger than the brain cells they occupied.
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Thu May 06, 2010 7:24 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
At the Fausse Point ride in march I stopped all over sandy cove both days (even by the bank where hunter and justin were havin trouble) and everywhere else people were riding and I never had a problem in the mud. But with that being said I only have my boat in the mud like yall have maybe 1 time a year and thats if I come to the mud rides. Other than that all I run is THICK vegetation and stumps, and I have run the gator-tail, pro-drive, and mud buddy in the same conditions and the pro-drive works best for me because of the weighted back design and its not belt driven. Ive broken 2 belts in the gatortail and 3 belts in the mudbuddy and sheared the bolts off that hold on the lower unit of the pro drive twice. We run ALOT of stumps. We have been stranded all 5 times in the belt drives but always came in under our own power in the pro-drive because even though the bolts are sheared you can still tighten the tension knob and it will keep the lower unit in place and limp back to the ramp. All the problems in the pro drive came from the old style lower unit that was only held in by 4 bolts unlike the new ones that have 6 and I havent had any problems out of the new style.
If I did just run the mud then the gator-tail would probably be a better choice because of the instant reverse and the longer reach of the outdrive.
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Thu May 06, 2010 8:17 am |
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mudman350
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:30 pm Posts: 217 Location: Berwick La.
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
_________________ 36hp pro-drive pushin a 1748 rick aucoin skiff 1500hp Mitsubishi pushing a 50' push boat 200merc pushing a 20' Mako
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Thu May 06, 2010 9:37 pm |
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mudman350
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:30 pm Posts: 217 Location: Berwick La.
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
yall all arguing about whats better. PD or GT. lemme tell ya ive seen them all run and they all are good. i like pro-drive but thats just my oppinion, they all have thier pros and cons. i just like the FPR. ya get stuck in forward, swing the lower unit around and back out.
and with the hard stuff, ive found that trimming down a good bit then lift the motor and drop it to let it dig then trim up and find the sweet spot works the best. like all the guys said "tiller time" im still workin on ma time but im gettin better. expierience is the key padna
_________________ 36hp pro-drive pushin a 1748 rick aucoin skiff 1500hp Mitsubishi pushing a 50' push boat 200merc pushing a 20' Mako
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XGEN-DUCKMAN
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:51 pm Posts: 195 Location: BackWaters of Wisconsin
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I think I have seen it all, GT and PD fighting it out like the old MB and everyone else debates. It is true that we (Yank's) don't have quite as much mud as down south but we do have conditons that are MM hell. When it comes down to which reverse is better, you want a allterrain reverse that will get you out of a mess- pick FPR, you want a reverse that you can use because you can't control your boat at the launch, easy- GTR......
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Wilson
MMT F.E.
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:35 pm Posts: 935 Location: South LA
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
Do y'all notice something in all of Bayouboy's pictures?
He's sitting down the whole time. That's a big reason why I bought my PD. The lazy man's mudmotor.
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Fri May 07, 2010 3:07 am |
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
Reason for my choice was launching the boat in a bayou with strong tidal currents, going in and out of a gated canal with strong tidal currents. I fought that gate for a long time and I will never go without instant its what I need for my situation.
From mid December until April we run hundreds of yards of mud to get to areas holding water and birds or just going from point A to point B. If and when you get off step and stop you just sueeze the lever and break suction and wash out a hole to take off in.
Instant is sure convient at the back down but I use it in the field far more often than at the launch. By the way if it was not so important to ya'll why are so many of you spending all that money on that Auto FPR ?
Not knocking anyones chit but all this crap over and over whats the point? To prove that fpr is the best reverse well its the strongest but not the best for me if that mofo cannot get me on step off a mud flat than it is not doing ME a bit of good.
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Fri May 07, 2010 3:27 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Fri May 07, 2010 9:25 am |
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BROOKS
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:46 pm Posts: 4596 Location: East TEXAN Proud
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_________________ Git a Gator-Tail or ride in mines wake ...... MtrFact !!!!! '05 Model .... Still Number One on the Water !!!!
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Fri May 07, 2010 12:48 pm |
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idabilly
MMT Addict
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:17 pm Posts: 617 Location: Idaho
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
No one has mentioned it, but FPR works pretty well to get a boat out of what was described at the beginning of this thread. FPR picks up the back end of your boat and makes it easier to get underway in such stuff. I once ran about 500 yards in just a few inches of water over hard clay mud. Couldn't get going forward, so out of desperation we slapped it into FPR and made it to a great spot and day's hunt.
And screw the guy who turned this useful thread into a schoolyard pissing contest of GT vs. PD. You have contributed nothng useful to this thread. I wish I had a buck for every good thread that has gone south on MMT because of such useless drivel.
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Sat May 08, 2010 7:47 am |
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Sonny13
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:42 pm Posts: 158
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
no one cares!!!!! It is a personal choice and a personal purchase. It is my money as the customer to spend in anyway I want. PD is a personal choice for me, just like buying a ford truck. One side likes one thing and the other likes thier thing. No one is ever going to win this battle so SHUT THE F_CK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sat May 08, 2010 8:58 pm |
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mogumbo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu May 07, 2009 10:44 am Posts: 214 Location: Oklahoma
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
What I wanna know is where can I get one of dem stumpy props??? I have to agree about the PD props not grabbin hold sometimes and relying too much on tip curl. On the other hand, I'll never give up my FPR and contrary to what some people say on here, it has gotten me unstuck on several occasions where nothing else short of winching would have.
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Sat May 08, 2010 10:45 pm |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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 Re: PD lower unit issue in mud!!
some of u guys need to go outside and spend less time on the computer.
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Sun May 09, 2010 12:33 am |
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take'emgator
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Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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