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Durty
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Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:27 am Posts: 91 Location: San Antonio, TX
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 GDSD Need New Seals?
Do I need to replace seals in my surface drive? I have attached a photo of the grease that came out of the drive shaft near the prop. I replaced the pressure lubricator and followed the instructions some of you helped me on. I shot grease in the proper zerk and the new pressure lubricator filled 1/3 of the way full. As the lubricator was filling up, I noticed grease coming out the stainless steel collet next to the prop. I stopped pumping the grease gun right then. The unit is an '07 so I bet the seals have never been replaced. Any feedback is appreciated. This is my first mud motor so the thought of replacing seals is somewhat intimidating for fear of f*cking something up. Any advice you have for that is also appreciated.
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Robn1020
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
X2 on what Robn1020 posted...
My understanding is that seals might be due for replacement under normal use at 250 hours - or - 3 years....
Also use of the correct Go Devil grease is advised - that sure isn't GD grease coming out back there - LOL
At the time you change that real seal inspect the shaft for signs of a groove forming which could lead to shaft failure and replace the shaft is the groove is more than the thickness of a thumbnail.... Believe they run about 100 bucks for both...
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Robn1020
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Durty
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Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:27 am Posts: 91 Location: San Antonio, TX
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
Ok. Good info. I wasn't aware go devil had their own grease. The manual says to get #1 or #2 marine grade waterproof grease. That blue sh*t is the marine grade at least. When I order seals, I will order the go devil variety. This particular motor was not run in salt water. Regardless, when I replace seals, I will inspect the shaft for wear. How much do the seals cost and how many are there to replace? Thanks
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
You need your frame's Serial Number when you call...
But call Go Devil up - they will set you up with what you need...
No SN - no parts...
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:42 pm |
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Durty
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Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:27 am Posts: 91 Location: San Antonio, TX
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
I am disappointed to find this problem. I was planning on taking this rig to the coast this weekend. Is this a terrible idea now that I know the seals aren't good? Or can I just keep it full of grease so the salt water cannot come into the drive shaft area? I will be stripping it down to replace the seals regardless in the next week or so. So, I would think I will be able to prevent any real issues at that point anyway. I paid a good chunk of cash for this rig so I do not want to do anything that could permanently damage it, yet I paid a good chunk of cash for this rig so I want to get out and use it as much as possible! Again, your help is appreciated thus far.
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:57 pm |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
Go for it - run it...
The damage has already been done - you most likely need a shaft and seals.... Order 'em up and run the Mofo like ya' stole it till they get to you....
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:08 pm |
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Durty
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
Nice. --Any idea how much shaft/seals cost?
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deltaduckmaster
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Wow!! Houston we have problems!! This has to be a hoax!!!
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Robn1020
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deltaduckmaster
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Numb nut I have never re placed a seal in my lower units!! Now we have 2 broke gd in the last few weeks he'll they ain't but 3 of you left on here!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:19 pm |
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Robn1020
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deltaduckmaster
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 GDSD Need New Seals?
Cause I can!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:52 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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 GDSD Need New Seals?
How many hrs!! Years don't mean shit!! I've had 3 power heads on my frame 250 hrs and ain't changed shit on the gator tail part!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:56 pm |
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Gigafowl
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
You push an entire tube of grease thru that GTR - what every 15 hours...
Sounds more like a bushing than a seal - LOL...
My GDSD has 200 hours and 2 years of hunting - toasted 4 props and have only used half a tube of lube and ain't even changed my spark plugs....
Dude in the same time you are on the third powerhead ! ! !
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:59 pm |
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Gigafowl
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:01 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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Ops I forgot I changed a switch last week for my trim I wore the rubber boot off it still worked just a Lil preventive maintenance !!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:01 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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You right gigs I did change a clutch it saved my motor from burning up!! Ok one clutch!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:03 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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What does a power head have to do with them they are all the same when it comes to that!! As got props I know people that smoke a prop a week !! I got a drum full of burnt props!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:07 pm |
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Gigafowl
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
Reality Check ???
Does the DDM know what the "Pit Crew" really does to his machine between runs in the dead of night ???
While they swappin powerheads and re-shimmin and retensioning they also changing out ever other thing that looks tore up I'ma bet - LOL
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Robn1020
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
150 hours in salt water. No grease leaks. Doing it after year 3 just cuz I can! And its cheap.
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:12 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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 GDSD Need New Seals?
Giga first off I do everything on my motor my self !! I do all my maintenance to the tee so you saying I need people to take care of me nope I don't need anybody!! As for as mods Hoyt the only person that touches my motors!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:13 pm |
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Robn1020
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Gigafowl
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
Define - "tee" ???
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:16 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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 GDSD Need New Seals?
Not really !! All my other motors had Evt rods in them lol the 3rd one don't!!lol my first Gtr has well over 1000 hrs on it and still strong 800 or on a stage one!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:18 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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T is when we finally meet you gonna think you have a t up-your azz but it's only gonna be my foot!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:20 pm |
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Gigafowl
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:23 pm |
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Robn1020
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deltaduckmaster
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Giga you make no since!! I think it's time for you to take your milk of magnesium and go to bed!!
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:29 pm |
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robertb4wd
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Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 1501 Location: Bridge City, Texas
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
I ran the red Lucas grease that I bought at an autoparts store. It seemed to work good for me. The dealer I bought my GDSD from ran the red Honda grease. I'd buy a couple of tubes and pump out all ofthe old grease. After that, you may have to add from time to time.
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:29 pm |
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robertb4wd
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
When I ordered my GTR, I did not get my pom poms. Do you get them upon delivery?  For the record; Not every GTR owner is a cheerleader.
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:32 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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I pump my old grease put once a year
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:33 pm |
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robertb4wd
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
Giga pumps old grease daily
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:34 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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Yea but all the 4 gd owners on here are!! Lol
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:34 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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That dude so old just a puff of dust comes out!!lol
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:35 pm |
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robertb4wd
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
I didn't have any issues with my GD, but I did need reverse. Tired of the damn douche bags at the local boat launch getting in the way.
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:36 pm |
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robertb4wd
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 Re: GDSD Need New Seals?
Giga, all you have to do is get dguidry to post and all the ragging would shift his direction instantly.
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Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:38 pm |
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Robn1020
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