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LADuckHunter473
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 10 Location: Robert, La
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 Prop Spinning in the mud
I have a 27hp Kohler GDLT and I recently changed the muffler and the throttle cable. Now when I get into shallow water my prop just spins in the mud. It will catch for a second then let go, then catch and let go. The prop and the shaft was changed by Go-Devil about 2 or 3 years ago and this problem just started and I have no idea why. Any suggestions??
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:39 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Put a new prop
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:41 pm |
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LADuckHunter473
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 10 Location: Robert, La
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
The prop is pretty much brand new. It may have 50 hours on it and that's pushing it. It makes about a dozen hunts a year, all soft marsh mud, no stumps or anything hard
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:45 pm |
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
That soft mud has sand in it and I'm 100% sure that's your problem. There is no cup left to bite. Its like running a knife through butter.
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:52 pm |
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Richard in LA
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Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:58 am Posts: 282 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:07 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:08 pm |
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LADuckHunter473
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 10 Location: Robert, La
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
That's the only thing I can see too but, that prop still looks brand new. It's been since I put that new throttle cable and muffler on that its been acting up. My brother has a 35 Mud Buddy that he guides with, has 3 years of heavy heavy wear and is still going strong. This prop came from go-devil brand new and they put it on. I just can't see a prop wearing that fast but I don't know
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:10 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Sand is the Devil!!! Give me 15 minutes & the right conditions, I'll give ya a paperweight.
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:12 pm |
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LADuckHunter473
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 10 Location: Robert, La
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
From top to bottom the prop measured 9 inches
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:20 pm |
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keystone light
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Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:04 pm Posts: 320 Location: Setx
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Looks like the leading edge has some wear.
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:24 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Can see where it has some wear, but another possibility is that you're now getting full travel on the throttle cable, giving you more power, resulting in you over revving in the mud & blowing out. Try to keep the rpm a lil lower when taking off, then hammer on it once you're moving good.
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:26 pm |
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LADuckHunter473
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 10 Location: Robert, La
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Even when I'm running in the mud wide open u can feel it not grabbing. Coming from deep water into the shallows u can tell the difference. It will push u but not like it should be. I'm going to call Hanks tomorrow and see if they'll look at it for me. I'm in hammond and really don't want to go to BR for go-devil
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:37 pm |
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LADuckHunter473
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 10 Location: Robert, La
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Any other suggestions? I'm open to try anything
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:58 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Now I'm back to prop slippage from wear
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:05 pm |
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Richard in LA
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Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:58 am Posts: 282 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
that prop looks to have a lot of the cup still intact to me. However, I know that they changed their props in the years since I have run a LT, and when the cup wears it makes a much more drastic difference in the performance since they essentially dropped the pitch 1" on all of their motors due to the heavy cup.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:16 am |
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take'emgator
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Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
well if the mudd is just solid and has little water and isn't real mushy your prop will actually dig a hole and not have anything to grab except for the occasinal cave in. If its dry mud it ain't happening, throttle cable and motor have nothing to do with it, Pick shaft up and keep sticking it in new mud till you get it all soft around the prop and back of the boat
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:05 am |
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Jw261
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:20 pm Posts: 96 Location: Lower Alabama
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
I have a 16 GDLT and recently got into some mud that felt the same way. I couldn't get the prop to bite and it felt like a clutch slipping type of feeling. It would catch and start to run good, but then it would find a bad spot again and stop until it caught again. I was able to adjust the depth of the prop a little and it seemed to help. I think it is just the type of mud you are in. After my experience I ran in more familiar areas through mud and it ran fine. I am chalking it up to bad/unfriendly mud.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:50 am |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Did I misunderstand? I thought he was running the same place, but lost performance after having a couple parts changed.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:15 pm |
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Woodiebuster
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Did you get a lefthand or righthand threaded exhaust?
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:57 pm |
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LADuckHunter473
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 10 Location: Robert, La
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Running in the same place. Scarsdale, La. I have no idea about the exhaust. It comes straight out the back o the muffler.
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:04 pm |
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take'emgator
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Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
He's jacking with ya LA
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:15 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:16 pm |
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Jw261
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:20 pm Posts: 96 Location: Lower Alabama
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:32 am |
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CCC
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Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:25 am Posts: 1685
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
What kind of rpm's you turning?
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:37 am |
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da go get'er
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 3406 Location: Prairieville
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
dig it down deeper until you find a more consolidated mud. The marsh in scarsdale has that nasty mud thats a pain in the ass to run through.
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:47 am |
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Jw261
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:20 pm Posts: 96 Location: Lower Alabama
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
Yeah, I was thinking mine wasn't a prop issue because I am still running normal in all other areas. Just one new spot where it started acting funny. I'll try digging deeper next time and see what happens. Thanks
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:27 am |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
So, it WAS a different spot. That's info needed & asked for to answer the question.
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:01 am |
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eljefe
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
i think you were used to your old prop and with this new one, you are blowing it out.
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:10 am |
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Jw261
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:20 pm Posts: 96 Location: Lower Alabama
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
My bad. I clearly hijacked this thread and confused the issue. Sorry
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:39 am |
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eljefe
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: Prop Spinning in the mud
_________________ You can't see the sunrise if your eyes are closed. dying aint much of a livin....
Black ops IITX marshstalker
1840 WC www.wccustomboats.com fuel injected 25 GTR
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