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weedwacker
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Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:24 pm Posts: 3
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 Tiller vs Center console?
Those of you who have run both what are the pros and cons ofa center console hydrauliac steer vs regular tiller rear steer? Thanks.
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
If your staying in the clear water a center console is nice. If your gonna be grinding in the mud and veg. stay with the tiller.
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:05 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
With a tiller you can work ur MM to its fullest potential. The same cannot be said about a center console, plain and simple.
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:13 pm |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
Bullsheet!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got a CC and I go everywhere tillers go.
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BROOKS
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:46 pm Posts: 4596 Location: East TEXAN Proud
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
I know I would like to try the CC MM set-up !!!! Thay is alot of advanatages from operatin' both. I had a regular outboard rig with a CC and I liked it alot. I truely thank ifin' a person is just gonna hunt and fish from a boat .... you would enjoy the CC when you just goin' on a ride ... Alot of fellers ain't had the luxary of ownin' nothin' but a tiller and don't really know what thays missin' !!!!!  I've ran 'em all ..... front stick, side console, center console, tiller, and 'course one of mines favorite .... MillerTiller !!!!! 
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:49 am |
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
Center Console is hard to beat on any outboard.
A MM though seems you can really get after the motor with a tiller. Not so much with a steering wheel.
You can still go everywhere a tiller can but when you get stuck or bogged down wrestling with the motor throwing it back and forth becomes more violent and effective (I believe) with a tiller not saying you won't get out with a CC just a lot faster than with tiller at least in the situations and the areas I run around Houston area.
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:11 am |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
Well after runnin both I'm glad I made da switch from tiller to remote steerin. I was very skeptical of how da performance would be wit da console. But after runnin it for a while this is what I have found out. ~In thick vegetation they are equall. ~In runnin tight timber areas where you need to make many turns real fast the tiller is much better (you can turn da motor quicker and you don't have to constantly worry about about rippin off your hydrolic steerin lines). ~In da drinkin catagory da console wins hands down I can let go of da steerin wheel hold a beer in one hand and a cigarette in da other. ~As for as mud goes all dis high water is killin me but I would expect da tiller to have a slight advantage over da console when it gets real thick and you need to grind your way out. ~Also if you get a GTR, da console allows you to put a longer rear drop deck. Which I have found dat wit 2' of drop deck, even when trimmed all da way down while full throtle in reverse only a few onces of water make it in da boat. ~Another down size of da hydrolic steerin is dat it does not turn da motor to its fullest potential so it is hard to do powerslides and almost impossible to do 180's and 360's.
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:12 am |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
I want one. 
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:21 am |
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JIMMY W
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 4534 Location: South Louisiana
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
I found the same as Quackconsumer posted!Plus-
1.It is nice to drive without your damn arm and hand hurting!! 2.When you hit a log or stump,It don't make you swallow your dip!! 3.You will learn to run tight places a little slower!! 4.After the 3rd trip,You will go to West Marine and purchase you a oh-shit knob for steering wheel!!!
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:34 am |
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blaze
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:55 pm Posts: 340 Location: Outskirts of Chocolate City(Westwego)
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
I found mine turned better without the o shit knob. Dam thing just gets in the way. Quack to do 180s the key is to trim the motor all the way up and then turn the wheel. Depends on what your gonna use the boat for if your gonna like the tiller or steering. The only way I will go back to tiller is if I get a skiff. Other than that gonna be steering.
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:28 am |
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oleman
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Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:58 am Posts: 49
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
I hunt by myself often and I believe picking up decoys is a lot easier with the tiller.
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:27 pm |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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HRCH Cajun Black "VOODOO" Magic 18x48 Center Console PD w/32PDHydro T&T; Hydro Reverse "If I wanted any of your lip; I would pull down my zipper"
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:13 pm |
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mogumbo
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Joined: Thu May 07, 2009 10:44 am Posts: 214 Location: Oklahoma
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
X2 on the "Oh shit" knob. It's a must. As far as 180's or 360's, there's always Full Power Sideways. 
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:56 pm |
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WES
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Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:54 am Posts: 282
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
WHY WONT THEY MAKE A HYDRAULIC TILLER ASSIST, like some of the big outboards?
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:11 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:37 pm |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:44 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
CC Are for mofo's who want to run open water.. Tiller is for peeps who like to use mm for what the things are made for !!! 
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:15 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:23 am |
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blaze
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:55 pm Posts: 340 Location: Outskirts of Chocolate City(Westwego)
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
Yea because a 45 min drive one way is a lot better with a cc than a tiller. While your hands going numb with that tiller i'm sitting on my azz drinking my coffee. 
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:05 am |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
I think I might actually go the center console route myself, and I'm looking foward to it. we make some long runs, and when it's freezing cold out, it sure is going to be nice. most of my long runs are across wide open, stump infested resivoirs up here in Texas.
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:04 am |
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jpc014
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Joined: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm Posts: 785 Location: Meraux, LA
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HRCH Cajun Black "VOODOO" Magic 18x48 Center Console PD w/32PDHydro T&T; Hydro Reverse "If I wanted any of your lip; I would pull down my zipper"
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:07 am |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
the only hangup I can see is really thick veggies. and even then , it can get through it. may take a little longer....
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:10 am |
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Glider
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Joined: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:39 pm Posts: 160 Location: Fort Payne, AL
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
I have a cpmplete side console setup for my 18x50 huntdeck gator trax. I can't wait to get it installed. It think the pros will outweight cons considering how little mud and heavy veg I have to run thru. mabye 10% of the time. most of my running is shallow clean water.
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:30 am |
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muddoctor
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 649
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 Re: Tiller vs Center console?
We run both, including a steering dual rig. I run the console with hydro anywhere I run the tiller, got stuck the same and can get out just as easy with the console, it just takes practice. Auto reverse on a console is hands down the coolest thing you will ever run, put it on a dual rig and you have one incredible machine. Our first rigs were teleflex steering and you needed an oh chit knob, the hydro steering you can spin with one finger. You can also get a faster turning hydro helm that will spin the motor in like two turns. We have run a 2060 boat in heavy timber and managed to stay right on the tail of a tiller rig the whole time. On longer runs the console is the best, I can put my hands on my lap and the boat just goes where I pointed it. It all comes down to what you want and are most comfortable with. As noted, you run a console different, you learn to anticipate turns, you throttle back a little in hard turns etc, but you can do some amazing chit once you get a little wheel time under your belt. Now duals are another story, learn to work the individual throttles in conjuntion with steering and you can do stuff no tiller can do, like spin a boat around at speed within the lenght of the boat, steer corners without using the wheel, etc.
Just our experience running both rigs for the past 7 years.
PW
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muddoctor
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 649
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_________________ Paul V. Willging - Owner Phowler Boat Company Illowa Marine
1701 Main Avenue, Clinton, Iowa 52732 563-242-8969 or cell 563-212-7091 email: larrys-prodrive@mchsi.com
http://www.larrysillowamarine.com
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