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white1
MMT Addict
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:33 am Posts: 722
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 Cam recommendations
Case gasket is leaking, so I was planning to go ahead and swap the cam when I fix it. I'll be doing heads in the future, just not sure how soon. Already have a voodoo exhaust, and planning to run a stock re-jetted carb. Would like a little more speed if possible, but mostly looking at load carrying. Recommendations?
_________________ Just your basic cracka ass cracka
1840 gator tail with 35GTR 15xx Bateau with 15 honda
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| Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:02 am |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
308+4 or +6 or get the heads done first, because if they are bad the cam isn't gonna create max gains.
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| Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:36 am |
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white1
MMT Addict
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:33 am Posts: 722
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 Re: Cam recommendations
My reason for the cam first is due to the case gasket currently leaking
_________________ Just your basic cracka ass cracka
1840 gator tail with 35GTR 15xx Bateau with 15 honda
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| Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:04 pm |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Bps and pvt. Cb might have one still. He'll chime in if he does. I think his 308 was a +4.
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| Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:31 pm |
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Will C
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Cam recommendations
We got the 308 from him, he might still have a 310
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| Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:41 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Cam recommendations
I have a 310+4, the 308's are gone.
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| Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:18 am |
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pnut
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:11 pm Posts: 97
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Has anyone run a bps and a 308 and notice any difference performance wise in the 2
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Cam recommendations
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Cam recommendations
I like the dyno 308 + 6 on the intake and +4 on the exhaust.
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| Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:43 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Cam recommendations
If bps tightened the LSA it would probably be a little bit stronger cam
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| Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:44 pm |
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debo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:05 pm Posts: 143 Location: Southeast, LA
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 Re: Cam recommendations
How much difference would I see from swapping my BPS cam over to a Dyno 308 +6? Will it be harder on the valve train or lose any reliability? I don't know much about the different cams and the info ya'll posted. Looks like good info though! 
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| Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:59 am |
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Will C
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Cam recommendations
It really depends on the overall combonation. I doubt that a cam only swap would be a significant increase in power. At least not enough to justify cost. Imo anyway. If u want more power i would first look at the combo u have now and make a call from there. If u list all details of your engine then thes folks cant point you in right direction for more power
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Cam recommendations
_________________ Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Are those specs accurate? I ran both cams back to back and the 308 was WAY stronger.
And by way stronger I mean it is very noticeable.
It pulled hard in my stage 3 engine from around 1500-5100.
The BPS cam came in later and was lights out at around 4700.
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Centerlines and lsa.. 
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Bug
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 1068 Location: Tallahassee, Fl
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Craig, there can be A LOT of variation in the cams as in a Tuesday vs. Friday sorta thing! What they're supposed to be and what they really are sometimes are very different.... That little bit of lift wouldn't make a big difference but 5* of duration on the right LSA with the right lobe profile can produce STOOPID power!
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Craig, what lsa's were u running on that bad boy? ...nevermind , i guess u were refering to graph. 
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| Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:32 pm |
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pnut
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:11 pm Posts: 97
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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debo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:05 pm Posts: 143 Location: Southeast, LA
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 Re: Cam recommendations
I have a stage 1. Heads worked by Jamie decked .050, BPS cam, and Mac exhaust. Just looking to experiment with a few things. I will add a mikuni after the season is over. Just curious about the cams and how much difference it would really make compared to my BPS.
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Cam recommendations
_________________ Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Good job on the graph db8.
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Will
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 8133
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Paper is one thing, actual running it is another. Unfortunately, if you place 5 different orders apart from each other for the same cam from any given source, there's a good chance that all damn 5 will be slightly different... Aggravating as hell, if you know how, you best check it before you install it to make sure its what you ordered. The centerlines and lsa are super important as it times everything. The same powerhead on 3 different rigs will/can respond totally different. It's a game to play if you want to get the most out of it. A degree here or there can make a very noticeable butt dyno difference. As far as the two cams mentioned, "IF" they are truly cut correctly, shouldn't be much difference but that also depends on intake and exhaust flow. When its all perfect, it will come alive and it can take a very small tweak to do it.
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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SCSuperfly
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:24 am Posts: 466
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Differences in the 308 and the PVT cam? I've been running a PVT cam for a while, just wonder if it would be worthwhile to change. Where in the hell do you even get this 308 cam from? Been out of the loop for a while playing with other boats.
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Just about any cam company...dyno, precision, isky, web...few places people here use. Theres many more.
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| Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:34 am |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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 Re: Cam recommendations
What is a pvt cam is that brand
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brickgw
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:15 pm Posts: 2032
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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 Re: Cam recommendations
Sweet got someone close ish to build my motor y'all recommend this guy then
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
I'll be running and comparing both of these cams again, along with a couple others in an modded EFI later this week.
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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debo
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:05 pm Posts: 143 Location: Southeast, LA
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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 Re: Cam recommendations
If they're all pretty much the same do they all cost the same too?
Also... and I might have to ask in a new thread... I have 500 hours on my motor and I'm about to have to replace the crank case seal. Would it even be worth it to drop a cam in there and have head work done while I have it all apart or am I asking for a blown up motor?
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Cam recommendations
_________________ Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
If you're planning on doing the work yourself and want something mild then I'd suggest the BPS or PVT cam. Both cams are really clean and will pull from around 2000-4600 rpm.
If you're gonna have someone else do the work I'd suggest you bring it to Hoyt @GT or Jamie B. & Calen. All have cams that are safe but you can expect them to come in sooner, thus giving you more bottom end and load carrying ability.
As for the heads, you're safe decking them up to about .050. If you're wanting to stay mild I'd shave them .030.
I HIGHLY recommend changing your valves as they are the common weak/fail point. You can purchase them from PVT and possibly BPS. Or you can pull your heads and ship them to Jamie B. for a complete re-working. He'll deck them, port/polish them, and install new stainless 1-piece valves along with a multi angle valve job. No one puts as much attention as he into these heads. His work is truly second to no one.
These mods are all safe and would pretty much make your engine more reliable than it is now.
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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kirk
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Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:52 pm Posts: 870 Location: SW LA
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Cam recommendations
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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flint87
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Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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