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chaseh
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:50 pm Posts: 1230 Location: Waco, Texas
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 hull thickness and 1644 value
how big of difference is there between .100 and .125 hulls? and i do n't wanna hear one of you asses say .025. and what's a 1644 godevil (.100), 25 lt with a few hours, and really nice trailer worth?
thanks in advance!
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Thu May 13, 2010 12:13 am |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
ummmm, maybe .25 ? 
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Thu May 13, 2010 6:03 am |
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LA Mudder
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:18 pm Posts: 422 Location: Belle Chasse, LA
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
how about twenty five thousandths ?? But really,, post some pics of what u got
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Thu May 13, 2010 6:24 am |
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POKER1
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
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Thu May 13, 2010 11:36 am |
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EasTexDux88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
let me guess. your talkin bout the one in the classifieds?
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Thu May 13, 2010 11:39 am |
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quackconsumer
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
A beer can is about .005 thick so............ .100 = 20 beer cans thick .125 = 25 beer cans thick
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Thu May 13, 2010 12:18 pm |
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chaseh
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:50 pm Posts: 1230 Location: Waco, Texas
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
no it's not the one in the classifieds, but it is probably a simlar rig. Don't have any photos. Went and looked at it yesterday though. Talked him down to 3800, comes with 100+ G&H dekes and a daisy cutter (needs a new insert) and a floating push pole, and he will deliver. Hull has a some minor (to me) dings that you can see all over the bottom, but nothing appears to be a major hook and all looks to expected to me.
And on the hull thickness, there has to be reason why they dont make .100's any more. But is that justification enough to not buy one with a great trailer and throw a SD on it later?
I know the obvious physical difference between the two sizes, but is .125 really gonna take a hit that much better?
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Thu May 13, 2010 12:52 pm |
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EasTexDux88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:08 pm Posts: 1069 Location: Longview Tx
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
id say if it fits the bill for what your wantin to do, go ahead. good luck 
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
As long as you're not runnin thru a mine field of stumps and debris, you should be fine. Mine's a '99 model, so it's .100, but i'm runnin mud and marsh, not swamp and stumps. Not a bad price with the xtras thrown in.
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Thu May 13, 2010 1:07 pm |
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chaseh
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:50 pm Posts: 1230 Location: Waco, Texas
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
I think I'll be posting the longtail in the classifieds tomorrow.....  And I will be running some stumpy debris stricken areas. Can you get hooks repaired? Cuz I like the lay out of this hull; It's the split bench middle seat .
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Thu May 13, 2010 1:16 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
Most of the time ya can have it straightened out. Let me be the first to say congrats on the new rig. Now throw you a mb hd4000 on the back and wave bye to everybody as you pull away!! 
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Thu May 13, 2010 1:27 pm |
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POKER1
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
[quote="chaseh"]I think I'll be posting the longtail in the classifieds tomorrow.....  And I will be running some stumpy debris stricken areas. Can you get hooks repaired? Cuz I like the lay out of this hull; It's the split bench middle seat .[/ When you get a hook from impacts it stretches the aluminum some. So it will dent easier the next time if you pop it back out. And you will beat it to hell in stump fields. You can fill them in with body filler and steelflex over that. Stumps play hell on 3/16" so that .100 is gonna take a beating if you run in them.
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Thu May 13, 2010 1:44 pm |
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chaseh
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:50 pm Posts: 1230 Location: Waco, Texas
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
Hey Camo, you have a hd4000 i can pick up for 3k????  i've been looking for a SD, and I'm thinking very heavily about that 27 PD up in Ft. Worth for 2500. I bet that'd push that hull a heck of a lot better than that LT!!
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Thu May 13, 2010 3:46 pm |
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Capt Jeff Kraynik
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:48 pm Posts: 102 Location: Florida's Space & Treasure Coasts
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
When I bought my 1644 .100 hull per Coco it's (40) forty pounds.
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Thu May 13, 2010 6:27 pm |
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keestan31
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:40 am Posts: 1703 Location: Groves, Texas
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Thu May 13, 2010 6:58 pm |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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Hizzoner
MMT Addict
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:10 am Posts: 527
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
the Daisy Cutter not having an insert would be the deal killer for me
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Thu May 13, 2010 8:06 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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Thu May 13, 2010 9:12 pm |
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chaseh
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:50 pm Posts: 1230 Location: Waco, Texas
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
Camo, you sorry dog, thanks for rubbing that in my face. One heckofa deal!! I've found a few SD's in the 3k range, so as soon as i sell that LT maybe I'll get to run with you "big dogs"!!
Yup, it's official. I bought the boat!!! You old school longtailers must have one HELLUVA left hook, cuz I've been riding every day since and my shoulder is sore as all get out. But it sure is fun going through all the nasty stuff that I could never get to in an outboard! I believe that between my new found love for MM's and my previous affection for waterfowling, my life is close to good as can be. Thanks for spoiling it for my ol lady!
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baileydog
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:08 am Posts: 11
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
I have a .100 I wanted to save weight.
It does have some dents. I have put steelflex on it from day one.
I will have patch some places this summer. It fills in all the dents and dings. Slides over stuff much better. Just do not unhook the strap until it is in the water. The boat will slide off the trailer in a heartbeat
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Tue May 18, 2010 5:35 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Tue May 18, 2010 10:40 am |
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baileydog
MMT Member
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:08 am Posts: 11
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Well I would agree if you had a real big dog.
It saves 20% of the weight. .100 /.125 = .80 or 80% of the .125
I also have floatation in my boat. I would not have a commercial hull.
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Tue May 18, 2010 7:14 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Tue May 18, 2010 7:30 pm |
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Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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Wed May 19, 2010 11:19 am |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
I took mine to my buddy that owns a prop shop. He also does a bunch of fab work. He beat out 2 different hooks that were pretty bad and then stitched up the weak spots. I'd think any fab shop worth their salt could do the same.
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Wed May 19, 2010 1:03 pm |
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caddobrook
MMT F.E.
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 881
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 Re: hull thickness and 1644 value
How did he "stitch up the weak spots"? Just curious what can be done...
Pics? Inside? Beat out? 'Stitching"?
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Wed May 19, 2010 1:20 pm |
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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It was an old riveted boat, that i had beat to hell. Had a hook/dent in front and a big hook in back, right at the transom. Used wooden block and a bfh to beat out the dents, then welded up the spots where the old, brittle metal gave out and broke. When he was finished, it was as good, or better than new.
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