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Slew
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:58 am Posts: 92
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 PD lower unit won't come off???
Took it to the shop 2 weeks ago and they called this morning and said come get it they can't do anything. Dropped the 4 bolts and it won't budge. My sounds similar to the trashed lower unit post above, is there something they're missing or some tool I need to tell em to use to get it off? Bassboat had to have a tire torched off it yesterday cause it was stuck as well! I'm having hell for luck with boats right now!!! Slew 
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:43 am |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
If the motor is torn down to just the mid-section and the L/U and the 4 bolts were removed then it should just side right on out.
Do you have reverse? and can you still turn it side to side?
I would remove the tention knob on the side the mid section and give it another try. I'd also have them remove the mid section grease plugs just in case there in to far, plus you'll be able to see whats moving and whats not.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:11 am |
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Crews
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
if the 4 bolts holding it in are gone... there's nothing to hold it in. I'd grease it up really good first, then take out tension knob and grease fittings and turn it side to side and it should come out. if nothing else, take the reverse plate off and hit the spline and drive it out, with a block of wood in between so you won't damage it. I'm going down the interstate to Canton tomorrow, if you need some help, I could stop by. crews, 903.736.9270
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:47 am |
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Brinkleydog
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:15 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Longview, TX
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:10 am |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
If your saying they can't separate the power head from the LU/frame my money says the coupler that connects the drive shaft to the clutch is froze (rusted) to the drive shaft. I had to cut the coupler with a sawzall the first time I removed the LU. Properly applied anti sieze will allow the coupler to slide right off the shaft when the power head is unbolted and lifted up. If its froze you not going to be able to pull it apart and you can't get to the 4 allen screws to separate the coupler and clutch. Anti seize doesn't last forever and has to be reapplied every now and then. Thats why I say if you own a PD you should remove the LU every year as part of a complete maintenace routine. I anti siezed the crap out of the coupler/spline area last summer and when I pulled the LU this year it was dry and had a slight rust buildup. Over time it will freeze togther. Plus the old grease in the housing can get funky and it will not be pushed out when you pump new grease in. Only way to properly grease and apply anti sieze where needed is to pull the LU. Wait to long and see what you get. Same with a froze prop. Like LU lube being spun up to the bottom of the motor when a top seal goes out, water and moisture gets spun up into the coupler/spline area washing away grease and anti seize. Thats my theory anyway. Call PD for advise on how to proceed.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:38 am |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
how did they get the 4 lower unit bolts out if they haven't already yanked the powerhead?
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:04 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
He didn't say LU bolts, just 4 bolts. Which could apply to both power head or LU. That's why I prefaced with what I did. Your assuming they had the power head off and in that case your previous post would be correct, release tension and it should fall through the frame as its just a hollow tube. He needs to give more detail as to how far they got in trying to rmove the LU.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:13 pm |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
you're absolutely right.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:08 pm |
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Slew
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:58 am Posts: 92
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
I'm not sure yet, they just said they have done several and mine won't budge and recommended taking it to Cutters? I'm gonna go get it Friday and go from there. Headed to DFW to take momma to her Doctor and then little mans got an appt in Tyler tomorrow...
At least the tireman called and said he's got me fixed up! I guess I can crappie fish till the duckboats ready to roll!!!
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:16 pm |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
don't waste your time taking it to Cutter's Equipment hoping they will get it off for you... been that route already, and they requested that I take the powerhead off before I bring it to them. call me if you need some help... I'd be more than happy to lend a hand in exchange for a goose hunt. 
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:43 pm |
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stumpgrinder
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:04 pm Posts: 1438
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
if it's da top side dat won't come off due to the spline coupler as Poker stated.... it will come off. Just douche real good with sum penetrating oil & let it set... then while lifting straight up on da top side & prying all around under da coupler it'll break loose.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:35 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
_________________ 18x48 Charles Leonard / 36PD
"I do think there is a Squatch in these woods"!!!!!
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:38 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:04 pm Posts: 1438
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
yours may have been an exception Poker... but I've torn apart a few dat been in saltwater and had rusted da spline adapter pretty bad using what I described.
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I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:43 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
Yeh, Peck told me to do it and I believe yall. But I pulled a Coastal and pried, beat and motherforked it like a dog and it still almost gave me a heart attack. As my luck goes it will always be the exception on my chit. 
_________________ 18x48 Charles Leonard / 36PD
"I do think there is a Squatch in these woods"!!!!!
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:53 pm |
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stumpgrinder
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:04 pm Posts: 1438
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
well then bro.... next time sumthin givin u hell like dat... grab ur 3/8" bow rope and right near da end tie a knot.... then a bout 3" up tie another knot.... then about 3" up tie another knot. Aw hell u know da rest. lol 
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I am proud to be an American, I am glad that I am free... but right now I wish I was a dog, and Obama was a tree.
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:57 pm |
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POKER1
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 6243 Location: Bossier City
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
How could i forget that one. 
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"I do think there is a Squatch in these woods"!!!!!
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Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:12 pm |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:38 am |
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Slew
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:58 am Posts: 92
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
Picked the boat up Friday. Gonna try and get ahold of PD next week and maybe make a run for cracklins and quail eggs and see if I can get the motor fixed. If we try and tackle it here I'm gonna holler at you Crews!!!
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:47 pm |
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Crews
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:07 pm Posts: 2260 Location: Lafayette
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
Let's give it a shot! Btw... What's wrong with the powerhead?
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:17 pm |
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DeathMetalDukk
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Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:50 pm Posts: 3777 Location: Knotts Island, North Carolina.
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
Eh just leave the bolts loose and run it 'til it falls off. Shouldn't be too hard to find.
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:06 pm |
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Slew
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:58 am Posts: 92
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
Run down there this am, they got me fixed up in less than 2 hours and adjusted/greased and checked everything out! Good to go again. If the lake ain;t too messed up gonna go catch my 25 white perch in the am... Good people and groceries down there in PD country. They doing alright, its a far change from the last time I was there in 03... Slew 
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Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:35 pm |
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Mud Slinger
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Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:48 pm Posts: 989
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
had same issue, then I put my ass into it with a 4' wrecking bar and engine lift, she popped right out, dont be skert to get rough with it, you wont hurt anything
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Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:47 pm |
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Slew
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:58 am Posts: 92
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 Re: PD lower unit won't come off???
Brian and another cat was hanging on prybars after about 2 cans of penetrating oil was skeeted in the housing and it didn't budge! He cranked up da fire breathin hacksaw and cut the bolts holding the cluch out and got the motor off. I'm glad he had to work at it. I;d a been pissed if he got it off no sweat after it sat in Tyler for 2 weeks for nothing... Took it for a spin this morning she purrs like a kitten, glad KP didn;t try too hard to sell me a 36! Too windy to fish and the cranking battery was dead. Didn;t wanna swap batteries every time I wanted to crank/troll so went for a ride and loaded it up. Off to Wally World to get a new battery and try and get my decoys together in the garage. Might get that done before teal season ends if I'm lucky... 
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