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rudyeng
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Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:40 pm Posts: 596
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 19x52 3X taper info
Guys I'm finalizing the design of my WC custom boat and have a concern on stability. The boat will be 19' x 52" 3/16. I'm doing a 3x Chine.
I want the boat to turn well and also carry a load. My question is when do I start the 3x chine. Do I start after the 52". I want stable boat. My buddies 1648 is super unstable.
Thank you
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:15 pm |
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Hernaja1
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Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Is your buddies boat a triple tapered chine?
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:38 pm |
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brstanle
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:27 am Posts: 659 Location: SETX/Houston
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Most people have the bottom measurement (52" in your case) as the width of the actual flat part of the bottom. A 19' by 52" will be pretty stable.
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:50 pm |
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Hernaja1
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Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
My 18/56 is super stable , you shouldn't have any issues .
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:55 pm |
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calphil
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Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:49 pm Posts: 1715 Location: Kingwood,TX
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
My 44" double taper WC boat .. Is as stable as 54 GT boat ..
Me 250 and a buddy 250 can both stand in front deck and fish no problem .. We put it to the limit by both standing on rail
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:05 pm |
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4Cody4
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Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 am Posts: 2530 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:31 am |
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
From what I have seen the difference in stability because of th chine is minimal. It you want stability get a wider boat
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:44 am |
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Hernaja1
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Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Agree ^. Boat makers have nothing to do with the stability. A square chine prodigy and a square chine uncle j of the same length and width would have the same stability !
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duckduckboom
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Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:33 pm Posts: 5603 Location: Corner of Hell an high water, La
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Well in theory I would agree. However, the 2 makes would have to build identical weighted boats with the weight distrubtion exactly the same. The more evenly weighted boat will be more stable. If the two boats are built correctly thou, you probably wouldn't notice a difference unless you were jumping back and forth to compare
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:53 am |
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rudyeng
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Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:40 pm Posts: 596
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Loved my Uncle J 18X54 3/16. Boat was a beast. Fast as heck and carried a load great. It was a square chine boat. The issue I had was turning at speed. The boat would slide.
I want a fast boat that will carry a load and turn at WOT. The stability is an issue as well.
Can one boat do all this and run 30 mph , stage 2 ??
Thanks !!
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:38 am |
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Hernaja1
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Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
I'd get a square chine if they didn't slide so bad on the turns. The bayou on the way to my lease is oxbow . Would have to throttle down every turn. You go 10 miles just to drive 5 lol. That's why I'm going with a triple chine. But I do like how well the square chimes carry a load.
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:03 am |
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tlsmith22
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Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:01 pm Posts: 175 Location: North Alabama
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
I have a 2054 square chine 3/16 hull as well and it does slide in turns. You have to slow down but its a superfast hull and carrys a load very well. If I had it to do over I would go back with another square chine because u dont have to slow down that much to make a turn and I had rather have the speed and load carrrying ability.
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:20 am |
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Gigafowl
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:19 pm Posts: 6441 Location: Trinity Bay - Texas
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Bow rake and angle has way more to do with stability at dead stop than chine design - remember several feet of many hulls are not even in contact with the water....
Your sketch shows a 7 foot bow rake and an 11x52 contact pad...
A lot of 16x48 hulls have bigger contact pads - that might be a bigger concern or concept to think over ??? Long bow rakes are faster at WOT but give up some stability at dead stop....
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:22 am |
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brstanle
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Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:27 am Posts: 659 Location: SETX/Houston
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Something to chew on for a while... Round chine boats will be more stable if they're measured by the actual flat bottom width because you have more boat in the water at a stop. Food for thought.
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:13 pm |
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270Handiman
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Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 2342 Location: Mandeville, LA
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rudyeng
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
Thanks guys for the input !!
I will get with Pete at WC to talk about the rake and other items.
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:37 pm |
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Hernaja1
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:54 pm |
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rudyeng
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
The area I hunt is called fish eating creek. Located in Palmdale Fl. They open up the check station at 5 AM. I got a 15 mile cypress infested dark run to my spot. Takes me about an hour. Crazy turns cypress heads multiple collisions it's crazy. If you miss the trail you wont find out until your 100yards in. The place is loaded with dear & hog
I added a pic shows a .2 mile segment. We do 15 miles in and 15 out.
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Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:56 pm |
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Hernaja1
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Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: 19x52 3X taper info
lol drive 15 miles and really only go 5 miles lol. doesn't help crab traps in the way. anyone who has a triple chine on here , how do u like it ?
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