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thormoto17
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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:38 am Posts: 21
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 Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
My set up is a 420cc lifan longtail on a 14/42 boat at least I think that's the width or close to it. Now onto my problems first is prop sizes are 8×5 and 8.5×6 which do you recommend? Secondly if you installed a throttle lever how did you do it? I have tried so many things but I can't seem to get anything to give me a full range of throttle! Any advice is much appreciated!
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
Do you have one of those Thai or SPS kits?
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:23 pm |
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thormoto17
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:38 am Posts: 21
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
Yes I do but it's actually mad le by beaverdam mud runners
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:15 pm |
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
smh
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:52 pm |
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thormoto17
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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:38 am Posts: 21
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
What?
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:58 pm |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:38 pm |
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thormoto17
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:38 am Posts: 21
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
Oh well sorry im a college student that can't afford a backwater motor FRANKtheTAU
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:40 pm |
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HOTSAUCE170
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:44 am Posts: 1685 Location: Lake Blackshear,GA
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
the folks who sold you the kit cant recommend a prop?
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:01 pm |
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flint87
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
As cheap as those props are just buy a few of each and see what you like
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:34 pm |
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thormoto17
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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:38 am Posts: 21
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
Yeah I think that is what I will end up having to do
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:43 pm |
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SETx Longtail
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Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
Get a couple different cheap-o props and find out what you need and get that one in stainless.
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:18 pm |
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FRANKtheTAU
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:30 pm Posts: 1386 Location: West TN
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
First off, there are plenty of reliable longtail options besides Backwater. I've owned and used plenty of other longtails. I just don't think the cheap Thai kits are worth having. They are cheaply made and just can't handle the abuse that the other longtails can handle. I honestly think you'd be better off with a little outboard.
Secondly, I COMPLETELY understand the poor college kid situation. It's been less than a decade since I was in your shoes. I busted my ass and bought a riveted 1440 and ran an 8hp Mercury through hell.
Please take a little piece of knowledge from me that will apply to a lot more than just this mud motor situation. A lot of times people will want a certain item that costs let's say $1,000. They can't afford it so they buy another option that's costs maybe half of the money. So now you've only spent $500. Great, right? Well, more times than not, the answer is no. Sure you've paid half, but that's because you bought an inferior product that won't last. So now after a few months, maybe a year, you realize your half priced item is junk and you want to upgrade. Now you go out and buy the original item for $1,000. Now your total cost is $1,500 and you're realizing you should've just saved a little more money and bought the $1,000 item first. Spend the money on a quality iten the first time. Once again, this is coming from someone who has been there and done that.
Back to your original question, I'd call the people that I just handed over my hard earned money to and ask them what prop they recommend.
_________________ 40 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1752 Alweld Mud
6.5 Backwater SWOMP Lite / 1440 PolarKraft
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:28 pm |
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Honky Kong
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Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:41 pm Posts: 227 Location: Mankato, MN
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
_________________ Backwater Swomp 23 / Lowe L1448M
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:48 pm |
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Trousertrout
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
Preach on my *****
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:33 pm |
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45th parallel
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Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:07 pm Posts: 228
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
“There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person’s lawful prey. It’s unwise to pay too much, but it’s worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money — that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot — it can’t be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.” John Ruskin
_________________ 35 Swomp on a 17-52 Alweld on a crusty old trailer you probably shouldn't follow too close 10hp Swomp lite 14-36 alumacraft
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:56 pm |
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Mark F. Cheney
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Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:44 am Posts: 154 Location: Bountiful, Utah
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
This is a comment on John Ruskin's quote, not Tai kits.
If you want fresh clean oats that haven't already been through the horse, They cost a little extra.
Mark F. Cheney
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:10 pm |
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Mark F. Cheney
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:44 am Posts: 154 Location: Bountiful, Utah
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
I mount a 8 x 6 prop with the 420 cc predator from Harbor Freight.
Mark F. Cheney
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Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:12 pm |
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NinjaButtpirate
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Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:46 pm Posts: 457
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thisisdc
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:44 pm Posts: 56
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
I have the 8.5" prop on my duro 16hp. It drags the rpms down right to 3460 or so. I hate to say it, but I wished I would have never spent the money on aluminum props. I'm also in college currently and I thought it would be cheaper to go through 5-6 aluminum ones to outweigh the cost of 1 steel. But I tell you what, I've put 4 hours on my long tail and I've gone through 1.5 props. And this is being easy on it and not going through shit. Save yourself the headache and just get a stainless one from the getgo
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:56 am |
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thormoto17
MMT Member
Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:38 am Posts: 21
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 Re: Looking for advice on my longtail have a couple issues
Makes sense I am going to try the props I have now and see which works better then get that one in stainless. Also has anyone removed the governor on their motor if so how did it effect it
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Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:46 am |
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