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HuntingRDR
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:19 pm Posts: 530 Location: TX
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 Aluminum Alloy Help
What kind of aluminum are most boat builders using? 5052 or 5086? Also if it is 5086, is it H116, H32, or H34? What holds up the best?
Thanks.
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GaugeTheDuckDog
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:55 pm Posts: 327
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 Re: Aluminum Alloy Help
what are you building Robert?
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HuntingRDR
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T-mac
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 Re: Aluminum Alloy Help
You should call Ricky and Brother for help there-
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:39 am |
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HuntingRDR
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 Re: Aluminum Alloy Help
This is what I found on go-devils website.
CONSTRUCTION: ALL ALUMINUM HULL: 0.125" 5086 H116 SEATS, LIDS, DECKS: 0.100" 5052 H32 FLOOR, FLOAT CHAMBER: 0.063" 5052 H32 RUNNERS, GUNNELS: 0.125" 6063
Was planning on using 6063 T52 aluminum for the bracing, tubing, etc. Only thing I was unsure of was the floor. Looks like go devil uses 5086 H116. Will keep looking to see what others use.
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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From what I know, which ain't much, most builders use 5086. The stronger stuff is brittle. It tends to crack rather than bend.
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bundy
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the boat im currently working on the plate is 5052...
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:41 pm |
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TXSHOCKWAVE
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:51 pm Posts: 295 Location: Karankawa Lake TX
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bundy
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Mitschke
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timber22
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TXSHOCKWAVE
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bundy
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ok and this person tought a person on here that all yal druell on the boat when u see it so believe what u want phagg
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TXSHOCKWAVE
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POKER1
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bundy
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ok phagg boy thats y we get two r more calls a day for a aucoins custom fab boat... mmmhmmm i wonder y ???...not really poker...
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POKER1
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I know this. While that 5052 .125 bottom may do well in the marsh it ain't worth a chit up here. My 3/16" has held up better than a 1/8" bottom but even it has its limits. My next hull will have a 1/4" 5086, 6 stringer bottom.
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indybill
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I see that if you disagree and show knowledge of a subject that is not inline with bundy you are called a phagg. Have noticed that in several posts by him. Nice helpful approach to exchanging information with poster. NOT Once again this is the kind of attitude that keeps this site from really helping people to make informed decisions. By alienating those that want to help with differing views by calling them names and trying to discredit them with personal attacks. Would be helpful to include support information as TXSHOCKWAVE did than just personally attack. My opinion only. sorry for the jack. 
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Crews
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I was under the impression that most of the guys making mudboat hulls use 5086.
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HuntingRDR
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 Re: Aluminum Alloy Help
I did not mean to start a brawl. Thanks for the help guys.
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indybill
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Hope you are right crews that is what I have.
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quackconsumer
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 Re: Aluminum Alloy Help
Having owned boats built out of both, my experience is a 5052 bottom hull is better. 5086 tends to crack over time wit the vibration of runnin a boat. It has happened to a boat I had dat was made out of 5086 if you dont believe me you can come look at da bottom of my father's boat wich is also made out of 5086. 5052 does tend to bend and dent easier than 5086 dis is what keeps it from crackin. When a boat is braced properly da dents won't be much of a problem wit 5052. However nuthin is indestructible when it comes to alluminum, so when your boat take a beatin to where sumthin has to give would you rather it crack or bend?
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The Shafer
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I like crack.
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marsh bandit
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[quote="bundy"]ok phagg boy thats y we get two r more calls a day for a aucoins custom fab boat... mmmhmmm i wonder y ???...not really poker...[/
They are probably looking for Ricky
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WestEndAngler
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Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am Posts: 9143 Location: Houston | Surfside
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taucoin
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Im not here to measure d*cks with you guys, but just FYI, most of the boats Ricky built while at Aucoins Fabrication had 5052 bottoms. Is it more likely to hook? Perhaps. It will hold up to many years of use(NOT ABUSE). Its all personal preference...
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WestEndAngler
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taucoin
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In that case maybe you should consider a 9/16 bottom like brinklydogs. 
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EasTexDux88
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:13 pm |
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taucoin
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There was no problem with the way the boat was built, the problem was the 1500-2000lbs you were carrying in an all 1/8th boat over stumps. You commented on the old MMT site about a week before you noticed the bottom about how much weight you were carrying and how impressed you were with it. Bottom line is with that much weight I dont see how you could exect the bottom to stay straight. As I said before, I dont want to have a pissing match here, just saying that some people are sure hard on criticizing boat builders(including ricky) when the problem often lies in incorrect assumption that since its aluminum, its indestructable. Oh, and Im Travis. According to Bundy, Im the shop d1ckhead. 
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basinhunter
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