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I have a 2015 Gator Tail GTR35 with 75 hrs on an 1860 Gator Tail Extreme hull and am only getting 8 to 9 mph with a load of 1 other guy (about 220 lbs), an 80 lb dog, 18 decoys (6 of them teal), guns blind bags and of course myself (190 lbs). Yesterday running a creek that was fairly deep I could only get 8 to 9 mph out of my boat. I played with the trim and had my buddy move all over the boat to see if that would help with no success. Once I exited the creek and rode out to the shallower part of the lake I was able to plane out ok and get about 18 to 20 mph out of it. However once I hit the deep water again it dogs out. Could this be a prop issue? I plan on measuring it this evening, anyone know what dimension on the stock 3 blade prop on a GTR should be? Without my buddy with the same load I can get on plane just fine, didn't have this issue last season that's why I'm thinking it's the prop.

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Seems to be a common problem a lot of people attribute to leaky valves

It's simple. get a mud motor. shoot ducks in the face.


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If you're going only 8 or 9 mph its got to be something more than just the prop.

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can you verify the throttle is fully opening? What is your max no load rpm, and your max loaded RPM (at your best speed)?

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I'm gonna guess and say you've got a prop problem

It's simple. get a mud motor. shoot ducks in the face.


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what doe your blades measure from center of shaft to blade tips ( 3 blade) or Overall Diameter (2 Blade)?

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8 mph sounds a lot more then a simple prop problem !

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take a video of this please, It would be beneficial to help diagnose it.

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Having a similar problem with my boat but don't seem to be as bad as yours. Just bought a new 3 blade 12 pitch prop. 2 people, Hunting load (7 dozen decoys, waiders, guns, ammo, and seats) boat runs fine, add another person and the boat wont get on plane good unless in really shallow water 12-14 mph. Had a stock 3 blade before this one and ran 22 mph all day with 3 people and the same load, not sure what pitch it was but im hoping that is the problem.


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3 blade 12p is a ton of prop

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That high of rpm's, and not getting on step, sounds like a worn prop,
But if you are "Bogging" down, Then it sounds like a clogged jet in the carb.
That has been the problem I've been seeing a lot lately.

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You've got slippage, either the prop or maybe the belt.

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so you are saying his timing belt is slipping?

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What is between a timing belt and a v belt

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5.25 = 10.5" OD of prop, new they are 11.25", you are .75" less. You need a new prop.

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get out of here maxxis, I am fishing. I was really going after dguidry because he said the belt was slipping. Now it looks as if i might have some other people

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Thanks for the diagnosis! Only have 75 hrs on this boat, is this normal prop wear or have I just abused this one? I don't run sandy bottoms however I have stumbled upon some rocky bottoms but I try and get the prop stopped and away from the rocks as soon as possible. I do run stumpy areas and areas with submerged logs.

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The bottom where i run has a lot of sand in the mud and I go through props like nobodies business.

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