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Hernaja1
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
My GT and my buddy's PD performed the same in the stumps a few days ago. Was an area with all sunken logs and stumps.
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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banded-mallard
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4310
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med
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
The pd will take a beating just as well as a gd. I hunt the same area od does and have hit stuff and would've bet money my whole lower was gone…… and i keep on truckin
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:47 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:27 am |
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med
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
_________________ 1850 & 36pd
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:55 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Does just as good, but you gotta take the skeg off every now and then and lay it on the concrete and beat it back flat with a dead blow hammer. 
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:01 am |
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med
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
 the way it sounds that the new ones are being made that might be a bitch
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:14 am |
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cupped up
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Won't have to worry about taking it off to straighten it, the cast will probly grenade itself instead of bending 
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:18 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:28 am |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
I find it hard to believe they would make a lower unit change that Takes a step backwards in reliability. There has to be a reason for it and I'm sure it will be some sort of improvement to the motor.
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take'emgator
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm Posts: 10201 Location: SETX
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:59 pm |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
The only time it sucks, is when you dont kill. Its usually a pissed off ride back to the ramp 
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:04 pm |
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Woodiebuster
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:00 pm Posts: 6060 Location: Choudrant, La
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
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(New Motor) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54733 Stumps Fear Me
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:18 pm |
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CootSlayerRMFT
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
You still got the picture of the outboard prop stuck in one of those stumps with the whole prop shaft still attached? That was some funny shit!  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:13 pm |
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duckboy28
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:18 pm Posts: 194
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
I run a GDSD and i honestly have to say it is tough....the down fall is it will beat the S&** out of you when nailing stumps at high speed be ready to RODEO! no problems on the lower Unit the prop has 2 and 3/4 of blades cause the 3rd blade hit a colvert jumping a leavy and i still get 24 loaded down just vibrates bad... any ways i plan on getting a new prop and hitting more stumps in a few days. I have lots of freinds with MB and the cases (lower Unit Housing) crack constantly and are having to JB weld them up. I went with the Galvanized GDSD cant go wrong
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LA Prop
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 pm Posts: 1008
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:15 pm |
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barnes_53
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:14 pm Posts: 4781
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Another mystery solved. Case closed. Next question?
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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CootSlayerRMFT
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Barnes, I didn't know MudBuddy had a 3-blade prop???
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Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:38 pm |
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barnes_53
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:14 pm Posts: 4781
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:06 pm Posts: 6584
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med
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
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Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:09 am |
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CootSlayerRMFT
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:53 am Posts: 7565 Location: Prairieville, LA
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
There it is!!!  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:19 am |
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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_________________ 1850 Predator Series Stick Steer Option 40HP Gatortail
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Pete14
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:49 pm Posts: 445 Location: Southern Illinois
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Guys I have a dumb question for you. How in the hell and why in the hell are there so many cypress swamps where there are no longer (standing trees)? Were these places logged a long time ago or storms? Just a dumb and curious question?
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barnes_53
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:14 pm Posts: 4781
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Pete14
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:49 pm Posts: 445 Location: Southern Illinois
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
10-4. Carry on.
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barnes_53
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:14 pm Posts: 4781
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Pete here is a little local history for you. It is a good read and you will understand why the cypress swamps are the way they are today.
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Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:06 am |
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Pete14
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:49 pm Posts: 445 Location: Southern Illinois
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Good stuff man. Thanks for the read.
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barnes_53
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:14 pm Posts: 4781
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No problem.
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Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:38 am |
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Where I run, its because they damned up a river, to create a lake. All the trees then died, and broke at water level.
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Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:49 am |
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one click willie
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:46 pm Posts: 304 Location: Martin, MI
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
Good Lord indeed, Owen! That video is impressive to say the least... But that looks similar to the stuff we run in with my long tail. There's usually a lot of carp to shoot at underneath all that vegetation. LOL. We get our share of em, even with banging the prop into stumps and spooking them.
And that prop stuck in that stump with the prop shaft intact is a testimonial for why you need a mud motor to run in those stumps.
How many guys here running Gator tails have cracked a lower unit while running in places like owen's video?
Anyone else wanna comment on clutches wearing out/how often they might need to be replaced?
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge of mud motors with a dumbass northerner. LOL...
DW
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OwenDickeson
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
I wouldn't worry about the clutch.
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Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:08 pm |
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JD
MMT Addict
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:54 am Posts: 563
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
The gdsd will perform just as well as your gdlong tail. The got the same basic construction. I would not want a clutch in such a area. The longer output shaft on the gdsd may come in handy if you get high centered. The gdsd handle can be set up to float, you may find that more comfortable than having a soild set up. later this summer I am going to play with a load leveler bag , to make a kind of power trim. I had one on my long tail, the sd will be easier to set up.
JD
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forever draggin
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:10 pm Posts: 6664 Location: in the marsh with a boat load full of dead hookers
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Claycountycracka
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:06 am Posts: 126 Location: SE LA
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 Re: Toughest lower unit: GD, PD or GT?
i run a35gdsd on a 1660 gd. run flooded oaks and cypress and creeks with lots of stumps/old logging rd pilings etc. I have put mine through hell and have had zero problems. Think about it, were talking about mud motors here, not porsche's. simple is better. fewer things to break. the manual trim is a complete non issue. easy to figure out. my skeg doesnt really have nic's in it and i have put it through hell. the other brands may be better in other area's, but its hard to argue any of them are tougher than a GD.
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WhoDat88
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm Posts: 2912 Location: Thibodaux, La
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